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Taking center stage at Proton's 2010 Kuala Lumpur International Motor Show booth alongside the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO-esque Jebat study, is yet one more concept model based on another manufacturer's vehicle, the Lekir.
This time, Proton looked into its own car bin and in particular, Lotus, which it acquired back in 1994, as the Lekir is essentially a rebagded Europa coupe. Mind you, it's not the first time we've seen the Europa wearing different logos as Dodge displayed an EV concept of the model at the 2009 Detroit Show.

Depending on which part of Proton's description of the car you read, the Lekir is powered either by a 2.0-liter turbocharged unit or a 1.6-liter engine with some 220-ponies (167kW).

Malaysia's state-controlled carmaker didn't say whether it plans to resurrect the Europa as a Proton.

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Proton Savvy Review

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When Proton announced a significant price cut for the struggling Proton Savvy, I simply had to go drive this car. In case you’re not aware, I am not a fan of cheap and nasty cars. I have taken most of my anger out on the Holden Barina so far this year but something tells me I have a new target, the Proton Savvy.


Test Model: 2007 Proton Savvy 1.2-litre Manual

Starting at just $13,990 driveaway for the manual, it almost seems like the bargain of the century, even more so when you consider the features.

With a Renault sourced 1.2-litre engine that produces 55kW of power (5.7 litres/100km fuel consumption), a five-speed manual transmission, ABS, dual front airbags, 15 inch alloys, rear parking sensors and keyless entry, I couldn’t fault the car on paper… so I went for a drive.

I am delighted to say that as far as this Proton goes, you really get what you pay for. With an interior resembling a 1990s Hyundai Excel, a gear stick that vibrates in 3rd and 4th gear and an engine which can deafen you in less than 5 minutes, I couldn’t run away fast enough.

Let’s start with the looks, although styling is subjective – this is an ugly, ugly car. It’s not like other small cars where it can be ugly but still cute, this car is just ugly! The front is barely passable, but from the back, the sagging rear lights resemble a baby rat stuck in a mouse trap.


Proton obviously doesnt’t have focus groups in Malaysia to seek public reaction before designing a car. I can’t imagine any young driver walking out of a Proton dealership thinking “damn, that savvy is hot”.

If you buy this car, what you will end up doing is approaching it with your eyes closed as much as possible, just so you don’t have to look at it too much. But the real horror starts inside.

Proton Savvy Interior

With uneven and unfinished edges as well as plastic sharp enough to cut your skin, the Savvy gives a hint of what we should expect from other developing manufacturing nations (such as China) in the next few years.

My biggest problem with the car is engine noise. There is next to no sound proofing and given the 1.2-litre powerplant struggles, you really have to redline on every gear change if you intend to keep up with traffic.

Proton Savvy

As I attempted to join the highway, my ear drums were ready to explode from the screaming whine of the engine – this can scare you at first since no engine should sound like Avril Lavign on drugs, but no – its just part of the fun! If you intend to go past 5,000 RPM, make sure you bring some industrial strength ear muffs because you’ll need it!

But wait, there is more, cruise along in 3rd of 4th gear and the second you lift your foot of the accelerator the gear stick vibrates like a race dog trying to shag your leg. So along with unbearable engine noise and the vibrating gear stick, the Proton is not exactly a fun car to drive.

Surely I had a broken car? Nothing can be this bad! I took the car back and kindly informed the lovely gentlemen (who was keen to tell me the Savvy is Lotus inspired) that he owes me a set of new eardrums and a new Savvy.

Proton Savvy

He decided to come with me so I can point out the problems, he informed me the engine noise is normal, at least for a Malaysian car and as for the vibrating gearstick, “oh yeah that happens in the Gen.2s as well sometimes, it goes away after a while… I wouldn’t worry about it” uha… a car with 150kms on the clock should not have vibrating issues!

In fairness, it’s not ALL bad, the Savvy does have some Lotus blood in it after all. As far as handling goes, it would run circles around the competition (once it gets to speed). Comparing this to the Rio, Swift and Colt, the Savvy is easily the best handling small car. But that’s a small victory in war Proton have already lost.

The stereo is also rather impressive for a $13,990 car. Using a Clarion headunit and worthy speakers, Proton have supplied a very reasonable stereo so that you can overcome the unbearable engine noise.
Why on earth have Proton stuck rear parking sensors to this thing? If you can’t park this, you shouldn’t drive. Rear visibility is very clear and as far as dimensions go, it’s comparable to a micro car! Sure it’s free and yes, why not, but don’t let it persuade you, rear parking sensors in a car this small are pointless!

by Alborz Fallah

2008 Proton Persona Review & Road Test

 Proton Persona

Model Tested:
  • 2008 Proton Persona 5-speed manual – $16,990 (RRP)
Love it or hate it, Malaysian car maker Proton isn’t going anywhere. In the past 12 months the company has gone from posting a loss to returning a profit, despite sales of only 1361 vehicles in the first seven months of this year.

What exactly should one think of Proton? Hyundai of the ’80s? On its way to global domination and taking on the big guys? Or a small Asian manufacturer doomed without a global partner.

Having previously driven the Proton Savvy, the thought of driving another Proton was actually intriguing. The Savvy was a lesson in how to not build a car, so I was hoping the Persona would change things around a little bit.


Proton Persona

The first thing you’ll notice about the Persona is the looks. It’s actually a good looker, both the front and rear represent a very modern approach to car design. With the Proton badge displayed prominently (and trying its very best to be mistaken for a Lotus).

Proton Persona

But that’s not much of an achievement, Proton has never really suffered in the looks category.

Before we start, it’s good to remember, the manual Persona costs all of $16,990, which even by today’s standards is still very cheap for a car this size.

Proton Persona

Open the door, take a seat behind the steering wheel and you’ll start wondering if the interior designer for Proton was suffering from vertigo when he signed off on his work. If the random cluster of buttons operating the CD player don’t through you off, then the vertical layout of the air-conditioning controls should do the trick.

Proton Persona

The stereo system is made by Blaupunkt, the same company that supplies most Holdens and to its credit, the actual sound quality in the Persona is very decent for a car under $20,000.

Proton Persona

While we are talking about the interior, who on earth picked the seat colours?

When I said Proton could resemble Hyundai of the 1980s, I wasn’t literally referring to the ’80s, but the seat colour combination is definitely from another era, and it’s not the future.

Proton Persona

The plastic steering wheel is about as comfortable as having a root canal and for a car that comes with no options, it’s simply not good enough. A steering wheel cover would be highly recommended.

Proton Persona

My favourite part however, is the easily removable gearknob. Not only does it sometimes vibrate (much like the Savvy), but with absolutely no effort, it spins around. A few attempts were made to secure it back into its original position but alas, I had to do with reverse as my first gear 

 Proton PersonaProton Persona

Before I get on to the engine, it’s best to mention the cruise control. Out of the box, the Persona has no cruise control (even as an option), but our test vehicle was retrofitted with one, sort of. The man from Proton gave me a big fancy explanation were he referred to the cruise control system as ‘experimental’. He then got one of the engineers to unplug it, as it could ‘potentially put the Persona in limp mode’ – right!

Proton Persona

Now don’t get me wrong, I am all for going for the underdog, but a blind mechanical engineer invented cruise control systems in 1945, so Proton has had at least 60 years to work it out. Not good enough.

The Persona is powered by a 1.6-litre engine that develops 82kW and 148Nm of torque. That might sound like a reasonable amount of power for a 1.6-litre engine strapped to a car that only weighs 1177kg, but that all changes once you have four adults in the car.

Proton Persona

The Persona was loaded with the CarAdvice test crew and driven around our usual hilly testing grounds. Here then, exists the biggest problem with the Persona. You can cover the seats with seat covers, you can buy a steering wheel cover, you can even replace the gearshift lever, but the engine, unfortunately, is integral to the car and a big disappointment.

Proton Persona

With just me on board the Persona got around fine, in fact before the test crew got inside, I was considering complementing the engine for its fuel efficiency, but with an extra 300kg on board, the car struggles at best. There were times when second gear was not sufficient to get up hills. If you have a family of four, the Persona might not be up to scratch to get you around in comfort and don’t even think about overtaking on the highway, it just won’t happen.

The engine (which needs 95 RON fuel) was designed with some help from Lotus, for “a more linear torque progression for better acceleration” – right. Better acceleration? Better acceleration than what? The Savvy? The manual Persona gets from 0-100km/h in 12.0 seconds, the automatic is another 2.3 seconds slower still!

Proton Persona

The official fuel economy figure of 6.6L/100km is achievable with just the driver, but sit four adults and you’ll be lucky to manage 10.0L/100km, that’s if you don’t go deaf first (or get stuck on a hill).

There is one very noticeable plus to this car, it’s extremely fun to drive! Yes, I said it, a Proton Persona is fun to drive. With no ESC or any form of traction control (I would hate to test drive an ‘experimental’ Proton traction control system), it all comes down to the chassis and despite being driven via the front wheels, the Persona loves corners.


Proton Persona

I’d hate to boast about Lotus here, but whatever they have done to this car, it has worked. You can push it around corners as hard as you can push a Golf GTi and it will have no issues keeping up (until you go for the brakes of course). As far as going around corners goes, the Persona is one of the best for under $20,000.

Moving on to safety, passive safety is taken care of by dual front SRS airbags while active safety features include ABS anti-lock four-wheel disc brakes and Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD). Unfortunately there is no option for side airbags or ESC.

Proton Persona

So by now you are probably wondering why I’ve given the Persona two and a half stars instead of just one, well it’s simple, it’s actually a decent car for the money.

It looks good, it drives well, the stereo is well and truly above average and the interior can be spiced up with a few additions. Sure the engine lacks grunt, but for every day driving with just one or two people in the car it gets the job done. As for the potential quality issues, you can rest easy with the company’s three year, unlimited kilometre factory backed warranty and 24-hour road side assistance.

Proton Persona

If you are after something cheap but capable of getting you around, whilst offering the versatility of a medium sized car, this – reasonably priced car – is worth a look.

Specifications:
Engine: 1597cc S4PH DOHC 16V
Power: 82kW @ 6000rpm
Torque: 148m @ 4000rpm
Transmission: Five-speed manual
Brakes: Four-wheel disc with ABS & EBD
Driven Wheels: Front
Weight: 1177kg
0-100km/h: 12 seconds
Top Speed: 190km/h
Fuel Type: 95RON unleaded
Fuel Tank Capacity: 50-litres
Fuel Consumption: 6.6-litres per 100km (Combined)
Safety: Dual front airbags
Warranty: 3-year/unlimited kms


$11,990 for a car? Are they kidding. I’ve seen options for car stereos priced higher than that!
Model Tested:
  • 2010 Proton S16 GX; 1.6-litre, four cylinder, petrol; five-speed manual; four-door sedan – $11,990 (drive away)
The cheapest Ferrari in Australia costs $459,650 plus on roads, you can drive that around on Sundays, be worried about where you park it, make sure no one scratches etc etc… or you can buy 38 new Proton S16s drive away, leave one in each Suburb that you may (or may not) ever visit and you’ll never have another worry.


Okay, that was a ridiculous comparison but it gives you some perspective on how two objects which at their core, do the exact same thing, as in, get you from A to B can vary in price so much.

The same goes for pretty much everything else, sunglasses, audio visual equipment and clothing, you can buy a pair of jeans from Jeans West for about $50, or a pair of designer Jeans that start hitting the $1,000 mark.


Nonetheless the old saying of you get what you pay for still applies, so if you’re paying $12,000 for a car you may not be expecting much, but you’d be surprised.

The Proton S16 is one those cars that is designed to be exactly that, a car that will get you from A to B. Nothing more and nothing less. It does exactly what it says it will do and it does it rather well considering.


My previous reviews of Proton vehicles have been filled with complaints of excessive cabin noise, lack of power and comfort. So I expected more of the same when I arrived at the Proton dealership in Brisbane to collect my red S16.


The first thing I noticed is that the S16 isn’t actually that small, it’s 4256mm long and 1680mm wide which means there is actually enough room for a good interior.


It was time to get in the cheapest car in Australia.
It had been some time since I’ve had to use a key to start a car, with most cars now having moved to smart keys and start/stop buttons. Of course such a feature (which really is not a necessity when you think about it) would no doubt add another $500+ to the price of a car and remember this is about the bare essentials of A to B travel.


Key in the ignition and the 1.6-litre Campro IAFM engine springs to life confidently. With 82Kw at 6,000rpm and 148Nm of torque on tap  you would think the S16 is relatively unpowered, not so. The car weighs just 1070kg which means it has a power to weight ratio of 77kW per tonne.


In laymen’s terms that means it’s just like most cars on the road today, for example a Suzuki Swift has a power to weight ratio of 76kW per tonne and a Subaru Impreza has a power to weight ratio of 82kW per tonne. If you must know, that ‘cheap’ Ferrari I mentioned before has a power to weight ratio of almsot 210kW per tonne, so, yes you do get what you pay that extra $447,000 for.


As I drove out of the Proton dealership the very first thing I tested was the S16’s acceleration, grab second gear and flatten the accelerator. The specifications say it gets from 0-100km/h in 12.5 seconds but it sure as hell feels quicker than that. You have to rev it hard if you want the most out of it but given it gets away with using just 6.3L of fuel per 100km, it’s pretty darn good.


Speaking of fuel economy, my (ridiculous) comparison car, the Ferrari California uses 13.1 litres/100 km and emits 306g of carbon emissions per kilometre. The S16 uses half the fuel for the same distance and emits just 148g/km. You win all around.

Now you might be thinking a car that costs $12,000 must have some short falls and yes it does. My main complaint with the car is the lack of dual-front airbags (currently only driver-side airbag), ABS and electronic stability control (ESC). That will partially be fixed when the S16 GLX arrives mid 2010 (priced above the GX tested here). The GLX will feature dual-front airbags and come with ABS standard. As for ESC, that may be some time away.


The biggest issue reviewing the S16 is the price, every time I think, it would be nice if… I remember it only costs $12,000 drive away.

It would be nice if the stereo would connect to my iPod, it would be nice if the steering wheel was leather, it would be nice if it had alloy wheels, it would be nice if it had reverse sensors, it would be nice if it had remote boot release, it would be nice if…


Wait! It’s only $12,000 drive away. Actually if you must know, given that the stereo is not integrated, it’s easily upgradable for a few hundred dollars, you can put a leather cover on the steering wheel yourself, you can option it out with alloy wheels, reverse sensors and also get the remote boot release kit all from Proton themselves.

Ride & handling is where the S16 stands out. Of course there is nothing in its price category that I could compare it to but even putting it against cars costing $10,000 more it still comes out ahead. Proton makes a big deal about their cars benefiting from Lotus ride & handling technology and you only ever really notice its validity when you’re going around a corner at speed in a car with tiny 13-inch wheels and it’s not missing a beat.


Driving dynamics are a treat for a car so cheap. You know the feeling of being in a small nimble car with a lively engine that just wants to be revved and thrown around corners? It’s a bit like that. It may not be that quick but it’s rather fun to drive. Packed with a few adults in the car there is no longer that sense of the car struggling, sure if you have five adults in the S16 it will not feel as nimble as before… but did I say it only costs $12,000?


As for the interior it’s nothing special really, but then again it’s not suppose to be either. The stereo runs through a Clarion head unit with two rear speakers, the air conditioner controls are typical and the dash layout is pretty standard. As for the seats themselves, they are comfortable for getting around town.


Despite near 40-degree heat in Brisbane, the air-conditioning system works quickly and effectively (Malaysia is humid so they definitely get the air-conditioning units right in these cars).

It’s worth noting that rear leg room is enormous for a car this size. I am nearly 180cm tall and with the driver’s seat adjusted for my height I can still sit comfortably behind the driver and have enough room to move my legs around. I probably wouldn’t take five adults for long distance drives but four adults can comfortably travel anywhere in the S16.


The Proton S16 is the cheapest car in Australia and as a result there is now a waiting list for buyers. You can be critical of all the features it lacks, but if you have about $12,000 to spend on a new car either as your first or a second get around car, it’s hard to be critical of such a genuine package that does exactly what it says.



Having now spent four days with the S16, it has started to grow on me. The car has a lot of character, it feels alive and willing to do what is asked. I liken it to a small puppy, you can’t help but to love it, despite its few flaws (plus its probably cheaper than a puppy over its lifetime!).

Specifications:
  • Engine: 1.6-litre DOHC four-cylinder (16 valve)
  • Power: 82kW @ 6,500rpm
  • Torque: 148Nm @ 4,000rpm
  • Transmission: Five-speed manual
  • Driven Wheels: Front
  • Top Speed: 170km/h (Claimed)
  • 0-100km/h: 12.5 seconds
  • CO2 Emissions: 148g/km
  • Fuel Consumption: 6.3L/100km (ADR)
  • Fuel Tank Capacity: 40L
  • Fuel Type: 91RON Unleaded Petrol
  • ANCAP Rating: TBC
  • Airbags: Front (Driver Only)
  • Safety: N/A
  • Spare Wheel: Full-size
  • Cargo Capacity: 413L
  • Tow Capacity: N/A
  • Turning Circle: TBC
  • Warranty: Three-Year / Unlimited kilometre
  • Weight: 1070kg (Tare)
  • Wheels: 13-inch Steel